In a two-hour conversation on X, former President Trump and Elon Musk debated climate change, offering mixed views on the issue.
Brad Plumer and Raymond Zhong report for The New York Times.
In short:
- Musk warned that an immediate halt to fossil fuels would be catastrophic, but supported a gradual transition to renewable energy over 50-100 years. He didn't acknowledge even the most aggressive energy transition plans envision a gradual process.
- Trump expressed skepticism about the viability of electric cars and criticized President Biden’s rollback of drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, falsely claiming the protected area has more oil than Saudi Arabia.
- Both discussed the potential role of nuclear power, with Musk highlighting its safety compared to fossil fuels.
- They also discussed EV reliance on fossil fuels, cattle ranching relationship to climate change and the effects of carbon dioxide, among other subjects.
Key quote:
“Nuclear electricity generation is underrated...it’s actually one of the safest forms of electricity generation.”
— Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla
Why this matters:
Musk and Trump influence millions, making their views on climate and energy critical in shaping public opinion and policy. Their contrasting perspectives reflect broader divisions in the American public on how to tackle climate change and manage the transition to sustainable energy. As leaders with vast influence, their views, sometimes based on misinformation, not only drive discourse but also have the potential to steer the direction of national and global climate policies.
